Curse

Cookie of Funk · Aug 05, 2011, 01:44 PM // 13:44

Was looking at those Celestial summons. If you got a Celestial Pig; all of it's skills are life-stealing, would that not work wonders? Of course you have to get lucky with summons, and could potentially take hours. but it's an idea. Another is I guess if you have two slots available on your bar; is vipers defense + something like hunters shot? Or rad field, some other degen'ing condition.

impulsion · Aug 05, 2011, 03:46 PM // 15:46

Celestial rooster doesn't work, I managed to get that one. Best bet for celestials I think is gonna be the celestial snake.

Mig Coconut · Aug 06, 2011, 06:27 AM // 06:27

Try PI with 3x warrior warhorn summon, followed by immediately summoning oni/warhorn/dreamrider/celestial snake.

Get him under 80%, PI before he uses SoJ, he should then use smite hex and kill the warhorns. Use another summon and finish him off.

Given 1152 HP at 80% health (if 1440 total HP is correct figure) need 10.3 triggers of PI to kill him. Should get at least 9 - 3xRoJ, 3x for smite hex, 3x Zealot's fire (Zealot's fire may not be full PI damage, but should still be decent). He'll then be at ~180(144+divine favor) or ~12.5% hp. Another summon will prob kill, esp if he's dumb with skill usage.

You can try to be hit in addition to the summons (12x PI, enough to kill) but I'm not sure you'll survive.

Worth a try at least.

shaygo · Aug 06, 2011, 08:05 AM // 08:05

This is very interesting but, maybe if you post the build you use, other people will be able to help you solve your problem.

impulsion · Aug 06, 2011, 10:29 AM // 10:29

LB Signet can be changed

shaygo · Aug 06, 2011, 06:15 PM // 18:15

Its a wild shot but...
Maybe you're fixed on using a R/A because that's what you started with. Try to look for the skill that will help you solve the problem.
For example, will atrophy do the trick ? If so, you can go primary necro using atrophy instead of LS and mental block instead of whirling defense.
Or you might take primary or even secondary mesmer with distortion and arcane echo snow storm (energy might be a problem).
Of course AR is lower but, you get my point.

Bright Star Shine · Aug 06, 2011, 06:27 PM // 18:27

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Originally Posted by Mig Coconut

Try PI with 3x warrior warhorn summon, followed by immediately summoning oni/warhorn/dreamrider/celestial snake.

Get him under 80%, PI before he uses SoJ, he should then use smite hex and kill the warhorns. Use another summon and finish him off.

Given 1152 HP at 80% health (if 1440 total HP is correct figure) need 10.3 triggers of PI to kill him. Should get at least 9 - 3xRoJ, 3x for smite hex, 3x Zealot's fire (Zealot's fire may not be full PI damage, but should still be decent). He'll then be at ~180(144+divine favor) or ~12.5% hp. Another summon will prob kill, esp if he's dumb with skill usage.

You can try to be hit in addition to the summons (12x PI, enough to kill) but I'm not sure you'll survive.

Worth a try at least.

Summoning Sickness says hi...

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Originally Posted by shaygo

Its a wild shot but...
Maybe you're fixed on using a R/A because that's what you started with. Try to look for the skill that will help you solve the problem.
For example, will atrophy do the trick ? If so, you can go primary necro using atrophy instead of LS and mental block instead of whirling defense.
Or you might take primary or even secondary mesmer with distortion and arcane echo snow storm (energy might be a problem).
Of course AR is lower but, you get my point.

Hexes won't work, he spams Smite Hex like a maniac... Only thing that will kill him is sheer damage or condition degen....

Also, LOL? N/A? This isn't about just doing the monk lord solo, it's about doing the whole of DoA solo.. Whirling Defense isn't for the block, it's for the damage.. You kill EVERYTHING with it, except in veil where you use Snowstorm to kill stuff.... Also, R/Me? Dude, Shadowform isn't an option, it's mandatory...

His only other option would be A/Me with Wastrel's Worry/Demise, but that's not optimal since Enraged is a bitch when using Wastrel's, and Gloom will be a bitch to do without Whirling... In fact, everything will be a bitch if he has to go A/Me... Except for Room 1-4 Foundry, those will be the only things that might be easier as A/Me....
On a second thought, A/Me won't be very optimal since the damage redux from SF, so you can't really take anything outside of Wastrel's and the monk lord spams so hard that it won't work anyway...

EDIT: Mike, on that Screenshot you didn't kill the Ele lord yet, have you solo'd him yet or not?

Mig Coconut · Aug 06, 2011, 08:24 PM // 20:24

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Originally Posted by Bright Star Shine

Summoning Sickness says hi...

Summon them out of his range, wait 10 min so you can use another stone, then engage him.

DeVerseBakker · Aug 06, 2011, 08:42 PM // 20:42

Maybe use a warhorn, waiting 10 minutes, then engage the monk lord , using PI to max damage, then immediately use Warhorn again after the first allies to get even more damage?

Horace Slughorn · Aug 06, 2011, 10:20 PM // 22:20

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Originally Posted by Mig Coconut

Summon them out of his range, wait 10 min so you can use another stone, then engage him.

lol bright i like how you always sound like a pompous A and you couldn't figure this out

Bright Star Shine · Aug 07, 2011, 01:38 PM // 13:38

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Originally Posted by Horace Slughorn

lol bright i like how you always sound like a pompous A and you couldn't figure this out

Fair enough, but his thing still won't work because of smite hex.. He won't trigger it enough with or before removing it... It won't work at all...

Sinny survivor · Aug 07, 2011, 03:04 PM // 15:04

If you use slot 7 for a skill purely to disrupt RoF, and could somehow keep it indefinitely down, how long would it take to kill him?

Bright Star Shine · Aug 07, 2011, 04:13 PM // 16:13

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Originally Posted by Sinny survivor

If you use slot 7 for a skill purely to disrupt RoF, and could somehow keep it indefinitely down, how long would it take to kill him?

Tried Dshotting it, but mind you it's a 1/4s casting spell, so rupting is already really hard, and you need to be able to rupt him twice in a row to get him killed...

Mig Coconut · Aug 07, 2011, 09:00 PM // 21:00

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Originally Posted by Bright Star Shine

Fair enough, but his thing still won't work because of smite hex.. He won't trigger it enough with or before removing it... It won't work at all...

Powerstone to chain PI. Should be at least 6 seconds with it up (not sure if his recharge times are halved). If you surround him with 3+ allies including yourself, the damage from PI of Zealot's Fire may be greater than the heal from RoF, meaning he can't heal.

KingFlames · Aug 08, 2011, 07:15 AM // 07:15

Fingers of Chaos: Stance. (monster only) For 5 seconds, your attacks: cannot miss rangers; remove enchantments from monks; cause conditions on warriors; interrupt elementalists; and lose a hex when attacking necros.

http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Black...ggghhh_(summon)

Probably not enough 5 secs to remove ench if he spam RoF,but may work

Bright Star Shine · Aug 08, 2011, 10:15 AM // 10:15

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Originally Posted by KingFlames

Fingers of Chaos: Stance. (monster only) For 5 seconds, your attacks: cannot miss rangers; remove enchantments from monks; cause conditions on warriors; interrupt elementalists; and lose a hex when attacking necros.

http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Black...ggghhh_(summon)

Probably not enough 5 secs to remove ench if he spam RoF,but may work

The problem isn't that he has RoF on him, the problem is that he gets heals from using it (Divine Favor), so we need to be able to get him to stop using it all together... Hence why Dshot and Smooth Criminal are 2 of the best bets...

Cookie of Funk · Aug 08, 2011, 10:57 AM // 10:57

Is there a summon that has "Shame" or something like that? Energy steal + fail cast. Would work wonders I imagine. Though good luck getting something with that skill, if there is one.

Swis Worldmonk Swis · Aug 08, 2011, 11:32 AM // 11:32

http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Grentch_(summon) why not a grentch ? he can give nearly perma daze and when you time maybe whit technobubble then he is under perma daze.

Bright Star Shine · Aug 08, 2011, 12:02 PM // 12:02

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Originally Posted by Cookie of Funk

Is there a summon that has "Shame" or something like that? Energy steal + fail cast. Would work wonders I imagine. Though good luck getting something with that skill, if there is one.

Yeah, but RoF has a 2 seconds downtime whilst Shame has a 20sec downtime... Also, draining his energy is not an option unless you could manage keeping it down permanently... RoF is only 5e spell and easily spammable enough for the lord to outheal your damage...

drkn · Aug 08, 2011, 02:01 PM // 14:01

Knock-lock him with YMLAD cycled by spamming Powerstones. Being a shout, you can use it whilst casting Snowstorm. Would take a while to get used to the timing, but if used right after he gets up, he won't be able to do anything. 1400hp / 280dmg (5s Storm + YMLAD) = 5 rounds.